Mr Candido Rodrigues asked if Mr and Mrs Hamilton agreed that they had entered the premises three or four times around 2100 and 2200 hours, insulted the customers and said if they were not eating to go home. Mrs Hamilton said she had never been in the premises and Mr Hamilton did not recall having spoken to the customers.

Mr Candido Rodrigues wanted to explain the bar outside the premises from 2007. The Chairman emphasised that this was outside of the timeframe of the hearing.

Mr Candido Rodrigues asked for confirmation of the image presented in the agenda pack of a guitarist in the premises’ car park. Mr Hamilton confirmed that the picture was from 2007 of Pazzia’s car park, the guitarist had been at the premises on several occasions and played music outside premises without a license. The Chairman emphasised this was outside of the timeframe of the hearing.

Lorraine Barnes, the objectors’ representative, asked for clarity on when the pictures shown in the agenda pack were taken, which were historical. She stated that the image that showed beer cans in the neighbouring garden was not caused by the patrons of the restaurant because Pazzia does not sell beer cans. Mrs Hamilton said the litter was from staff members who threw used beer cans.

Ms Barnes asked the relevance of the image showing a ripped letter from The Duke, Sunninghill, which Mr Hamilton explained was a letter from Pazzia’s ex-employee. Ms Barnes said the person mentioned in the letter was unknown to Pazzia and was a letter from another pub in Sunninghill. Mrs Hamilton said someone within the vicinity of the premises may have disposed of these in their garden.

Ms Barnes asked the time and date of the second recording that was played, which was on 7^th December 2018 at 2103 hours.

Mr Candido Rodrigues stated the image of Pazzia’s chimney in the neighbours’ garden was from three years ago and was because of strong winds and storms during the Christmas period. As it was the festive period, the owners were away, so the manager of Pazzia organised someone to fix the chimney within a week.

Lorraine Barnes asked if there were any concerns or incidences that led to an advisory for zero tolerance policy to be adopted and random drug monitoring to be carried at the premises. Mr Hamilton said patrons discussed drugs in Pazzia’s car park, and Mrs Hamilton exclaimed there was sound recording to prove patrons that discussed taking drugs. The Chairman asked when the recording was taken and it was clarified it was from 2^nd December 2018, which was outside of the hearing’s timeframe.

Mr Candido Rodrigues asked for evidence regarding ashtrays being placed on the outdoor tables on the premises and people smoking at 2300 hours. Mrs Hamilton said she had pictures of ashtrays on the tables.

(The meeting was adjourned at 1200 hours, and reconvened at 1425 hours.)

Mrs Hamilton said the support from local residents in written statement by Pazzia was not within the vicinity of the premises. She stated the fish and chip shop and solicitors were 200 metres away and the retreat is 80 metres away from the premises and not on the boundary.

She also clarified there was a difference in the noise logged by her noise diary and what was recorded by the NTE logs because the timings on each date were different. Whilst Mrs Hamilton logged noise for a longer period, NTE visited of a short period of time and therefore not all the statements will correlate. She also clarified the neighbours’ window was double-glazed and queried why the license holder would need to provide neighbours with sound proofing if the music was inaudible from the boundary.

Lorraine Barnes asked for confirmation if the females voice in the sound recording was an intoxicated patron. Mrs Hamilton said she assumed the female was intoxicated because of the screaming. Lorraine Barnes asked if the recordings expressed suicidal threats from the female, which Mrs Hamilton said she felt they did.

Ms Barnes also asked Mr Hamilton if he recalled an incident where Mr Candido Rodrigues chased him with a cleaver. Mrs Hamilton added that Mr Candido Rodrigues came to their property and kicked their front door in attempt to kill them and may have carried a weapon as per his proclamation to the community warden, though they did not see the weapon themselves. Mr Hamilton stated he did not recall an incident where Mr Candido Rodrigues chased him with a cleaver.

Lorraine Barnes asked if Mr Hamilton knew at what distance Morton Cottage was, which he responded as approximately 15 metres away from Pazzia, on the right-hand side and a semi-detached property.