Rural Forum
Monday 16 November 2009
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Present: Councillors Mrs Bateson (Chairman), Kellaway, Mrs Pitteway and Wiles.
Jonathan Cole (CCB), Elaine Cook (CCB), Geoffrey Copas (Farmer), Sarah Copas (farmer), James Copas (farmer), Parish Councillor Coppinger, John Emmett (farmer), William Emmett (Farmer), Phillip Everett (Crown Estate), Carolyn Finlay (Berkshire East PCT), Arlene Kersley (Community Council for Berkshire), Karen McDonald (Windsor Housing), Su Ormerod (CCB), Andrew Randall (farmer), Parish Councillor Mrs Story (Sunninghill & Ascot Parish Council), and Parish Councillor Westacott (Hurley Parish Council) and Paul Yates (Windsor Housing).
Also present: Councillor Hilton
Officers: Peter Herlinger, Peter Hitchen, Harjit Hunjan and Michael Kiely.
APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE
Apologies were received from Jane Jennings, Rachel Locke and Richard Simmonds.
There were no declarations of interest.
The Minutes of the meeting held on 24 June 2009 were approved.
The Chairman welcomed Paul Yates and Karen McDonald from Windsor Housing.
COMMUNITY COUNCIL FOR BERKSHIRE PRESENTATION
The Forum welcomed Elaine Cook, Jonathan Cole and Sue Ormerod from the Community Council for Berkshire (CCB).
It was agreed that a rural walk should take place in the Spring/Summer of 2010. mr Barton smith, owner of the Shottesbrooke Estate had indicated a willingness to host such an event. It was a traditional farm and park estate. The group could walk or tractors and trailers could be arranged. A presentation may be offered by the farm manager. Whilst the walk would mainly be for Forum members, other Borough Councillors would be free to attend. It was agreed that the clerk to the Panel would liaise with Mr W Emmett and Mr Barton Smith to make the necessary arrangements. 5.30pm on 7th June 2010 was suggested as the date.
PRESENTATION FROM THE PRIMARY CARE TRUST
The forum received a presentation on health issues in the Borough from Carolyn Finlay, the Assistant Director of RBWM Locality Commissioning at the PCT.
It was suggested that each meeting of the Forum should feature an item entitled the State of Local Agriculture. Representatives from agriculture could then select topics of current relevance to present to the Forum.
DATE OF NEXT MEETING AND ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION
The date of the next meeting was proposed to be 5.30pm on 21st June 2010, preceded by the rural walk on 7th June. These dates would be subject to the publication of the Borough’s Corporate Diary.
MEETING
The meeting, which opened at 5.30pm, ended at 7.30pm.
RURAL FORUM
16 NOVEMBER 2009
16 NOVEMBER 2009
Present: Councillors Mrs Bateson (Chairman), Kellaway, Mrs Pitteway and Wiles.
Jonathan Cole (CCB), Elaine Cook (CCB), Geoffrey Copas (Farmer), Sarah Copas (farmer), James Copas (farmer), Parish Councillor Coppinger, John Emmett (farmer), William Emmett (Farmer), Phillip Everett (Crown Estate), Carolyn Finlay (Berkshire East PCT), Arlene Kersley (Community Council for Berkshire), Karen McDonald (Windsor Housing), Su Ormerod (CCB), Andrew Randall (farmer), Parish Councillor Mrs Story (Sunninghill & Ascot Parish Council), and Parish Councillor Westacott (Hurley Parish Council) and Paul Yates (Windsor Housing).
Also present: Councillor Hilton
Officers: Peter Herlinger, Peter Hitchen, Harjit Hunjan and Michael Kiely.
PART I
APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE
Apologies were received from Jane Jennings, Rachel Locke and Richard Simmonds.
There were no declarations of interest.
The Minutes of the meeting held on 24 June 2009 were approved.
The Chairman welcomed Paul Yates and Karen McDonald from Windsor Housing.
Ø Affordability remained an acute problem. Average house price in the south east in 2008 was £277k, over twelve times the average regional income of £22,100.
Ø The situation was even worse in the Royal Borough, with the average price being £420k, over fifteen times the average income of £27,500.
Ø Demand for affordable housing was therefore high.
Ø In the last year rural house prices had fallen 13%, compared to an urban drop of 18%. At September 2009 average rural prices were 21% higher than urban prices.
Ø Barriers to the delivery of new homes in rural areas included the shortage of suitable land for affordable dwellings, the speculative nature of development, the green belt, NIMBYism, affordability and accessibility of land, and the presence of flora and fauna.
Ø RURAL FORUM - 16.11.09
Ø Potential solutions included the organisation of a strategic housing land availability assessment (SHLAA), the identification and development of exception sites, better use of section 106 monies, requirement to provide affordable housing on developments of fewer than fourteen dwellings, the imposition of more occupancy conditions, and more positive development in rural areas.
Ø It was confirmed that the numbers on the housing waiting lists had risen as a result of the recession.
Ø Many people on the lists were currently living with their parents.
Ø Exception sites were explained as a small group of houses (maximum approx 12 units) at the edge of a settlement within the Green Belt where there was a definite local need. Normally confined to rural settlements, needs would be identified through local surveys carried out with Parish Council involvement. Any affordable housing built would be maintained in perpetuity for local need, so there would be no right to buy outright.
Ø A member asked what could be done to improve the provision of land for housing. He described alarming headlines in the Spring of 2009 about potential development in White Waltham and explained that the SHLAA had now been deferred until after the general election. He expressed a view that the housing associations needed to convince the Borough to open up land for development.
Ø Housing need in rural areas was not just confined to younger people. There were also older people in need, such as those leaving employment where there was accommodation tied to the job.
Ø It was explained that exception sites did not necessarily yield the benefits that some people imagined. Private landowners would expect to make a profit on their land, reducing the prospect of providing housing which was affordable. It wasn’t just private landowners who were making exception land available. Other providers of land included churches and local authorities.
Ø There was a current shortage of three-bedroomed properties in the Borough, the most popular properties for families.
Ø It was explained that consultations could run over a number of years.
Ø There was a need to make land available for development to keep communities alive. There was the added problem that young people were often leaving education with significant debt and therefore unable to obtain mortgages.
COMMUNITY COUNCIL FOR BERKSHIRE PRESENTATION
The Forum welcomed Elaine Cook, Jonathan Cole and Sue Ormerod from the Community Council for Berkshire (CCB).
Ø Support services to older people were often provided by volunteers who themselves were also old.
Ø The South East Regional Forum had identified housing and planning as a key priority for their work.
It was agreed that a rural walk should take place in the Spring/Summer of 2010. mr Barton smith, owner of the Shottesbrooke Estate had indicated a willingness to host such an event. It was a traditional farm and park estate. The group could walk or tractors and trailers could be arranged. A presentation may be offered by the farm manager. Whilst the walk would mainly be for Forum members, other Borough Councillors would be free to attend. It was agreed that the clerk to the Panel would liaise with Mr W Emmett and Mr Barton Smith to make the necessary arrangements. 5.30pm on 7th June 2010 was suggested as the date.
PRESENTATION FROM THE PRIMARY CARE TRUST
The forum received a presentation on health issues in the Borough from Carolyn Finlay, the Assistant Director of RBWM Locality Commissioning at the PCT.
Ø Access to public transport, and information on public transport was an issue for many rural communities.
Ø In other parts of the country local people acted as health ambassadors.
Ø In West Berkshire exercise opportunities had been taken to rural communities.
Ø Concern was expressed for the loss of ‘green lung’ space within Maidenhead. The importance of the creation and maintenance of public open space was underlined.
It was suggested that each meeting of the Forum should feature an item entitled the State of Local Agriculture. Representatives from agriculture could then select topics of current relevance to present to the Forum.
DATE OF NEXT MEETING AND ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION
The date of the next meeting was proposed to be 5.30pm on 21st June 2010, preceded by the rural walk on 7th June. These dates would be subject to the publication of the Borough’s Corporate Diary.
MEETING
The meeting, which opened at 5.30pm, ended at 7.30pm.